00:22:06 Emily Kavanagh: I have a few students facing homlessness 00:22:41 karen rhodes: A friend of mine recently passed away in the night. I am totally convinced that the stress from being homeless had a lot to do with his demise. 00:22:51 Kristal Thompson: Reacted to "A friend of mine rec..." with 🌹 00:22:52 MOLLIE ROWE: I am Mollie from Alabama 00:22:55 Chandra Osterhaus: Reacted to A friend of mine rec... with "πŸ˜₯" 00:23:03 Kashish Pillai: Reacted to "A friend of mine rec..." with 🌹 00:23:07 Sharon Underwood: Reacted to "A friend of mine rec..." with πŸ˜₯ 00:23:10 Kenza Idrissi Janati, NLIHC: 2025 Tenant Talk Live Community Agreements: https://nlihc-my.sharepoint.com/:b:/g/personal/sbetancourt_nlihc_org/EdqokvnEGaROsmn1w2zEYPcBqp9kKe1eZek0-1TKM9KLvA?e=OiTXYo 00:23:21 Kenza Idrissi Janati, NLIHC: E-mail Sid at sbetancourt@nlihc.org 00:23:29 Kristal Thompson: Replying to "A friend of mine rec..." Karen my condolences on the loss of your friend 00:23:36 Kenza Idrissi Janati, NLIHC: You can sign up for NLIHC emails here: https://us4.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=e702259618becdc3f0451bd5d&id=e090383b5e 00:23:48 karen rhodes: Replying to "A friend of mine rec..." Thank you. 00:24:33 Kenza Idrissi Janati, NLIHC: Fill out the Collective interest form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdJgett48_m78Ehw_kUbHESkXzjsVLEOBXCA9pd_5cSDz87cw/viewform?pli=1 00:24:56 MIROSLAV A TSVYAKH: I am asking for help if some one have any idea what to do. 00:25:26 Kenza Idrissi Janati, NLIHC: In the breakouts, you have the option to share:Β Β  May is Mental Health Awareness Month. What is one thing you can commit to doing for yourself before the end of the month? 00:25:27 Sid Betancourt, NLIHC (she/they): In the breakouts, you have the option to share: May is Mental Health Awareness Month. What is one thing you can commit to doing for yourself before the end of the month? 00:25:31 itzchel Garza: Reacted to "A friend of mine rec..." with πŸ˜₯ 00:37:05 Matt Brady: To continue, I worked with the Ana Casey Foundation in Baltimore and was at their offices, back in a previous decade. 00:37:51 Shanita Richardson: You welcome 00:38:42 Jacqueline Leduc: Hi from NYC, Jackie Leduc from ATD Fourth World Movement (All Together in Dignity) we are a movement working about ways to overcome poverty, working with people having living experience, we believe poverty is multidimensional and housing is a big issue related with poverty. I love a lot this series 00:40:22 MIROSLAV A TSVYAKH: I am from NY City and I am in HUD-subsidized Housing and they Cut Off my subsidy. How you like this ??? 00:40:40 Liz Marie Santiago-Otero: AI always feels weird maybe just because I am old and don't understand lol 00:41:01 Sharon Underwood: Reacted to "AI always feels weir..." with πŸ‘ 00:41:25 Janice Hardy: Great topic 00:41:43 Chandra Osterhaus: Replying to "Hi from NYC, Jackie ..." Is that just in NY? 00:42:54 Sid Betancourt, NLIHC (she/they): Replying to "I am from NY City an..." Hello Miroslav. I'm so sorry to hear that they cut your housing subsidy. We've been seeing this happen in many places. While we don't provide direct assistance at NLIHC, we can send over some resources if you e-mail outreach@nlihc.org. 00:42:59 Jennifer Mohawk: I'm concerned that AI lacks the human factor. Efficiency and streamlining is great, but sometimes people come from/are in situations that deserve extra slack or mercy. How is AI going to determine such? 00:43:30 Liz Marie Santiago-Otero: Reacted to "I'm concerned that A..." with ❀️ 00:43:51 Sid Betancourt, NLIHC (she/they): Reacted to "I'm concerned that A..." with ❀️ 00:44:14 karen rhodes: JM--I hope I am wrong. But I think AI might leave the most vulnerable in the lurch. 00:44:30 Shanita Richardson: Reacted to "I'm concerned that A…" with ❀️ 00:45:11 Rosey White: Please understand AI was never designed with the intent of helping you 00:45:13 Liz Marie Santiago-Otero: As someone that works with a DV coalition I think of cofidentiality 00:45:16 Jacqueline Leduc: Replying to "Hi from NYC, Jackie ..." we are also in New Mexico and in several countries ATD Fourth World USA 00:45:19 MIROSLAV A TSVYAKH: Thank You, Sid. My email: m.tsvyakh@gmail.com 00:45:23 Rosey White: And I've worked in Information Technology for 24 years 00:46:10 Marie Marmash: Replying to "Hi from NYC, Jackie ..." πŸ‘ 00:47:42 Kristal Thompson: Reacted to "I'm concerned that A..." with ❀️ 00:47:59 Chandra Osterhaus: Idk I used AI to help design and research a housing idea that I've had and it's helped a lot to steer things in a direction based more on statistics and back up my idea as sustainable... doesn't mean it will happen or work but it helped me feel like it's possible and provides additional information if I ever present it. 00:48:16 Jennifer Mohawk: Replying to "JM--I hope I am wron..." Me too. Every hear of Vernie Seidel? He was convicted and sentenced for killing a 22 year old when Vernie was 17. Many landlords won't rent to him since he's considered a convicted killer - just like Charles Manson. However, the guy Vernie shot had been abusing Vernie's 12 year old brother and none of the "adults" in the picture would listen or protect the kid. So Vernie went to the Court of the Last Resort. No prior offenses, none after release either - but he's having to crash with relatives & friends because the difference isn't acknowledged. 00:48:33 Jennifer Mohawk: Reacted to "Please understand AI..." with πŸ‘πŸΏ 00:48:58 Rosey White: Reacted to JM--I hope I am wron... with "❀️" 00:49:12 Jennifer Mohawk: Reacted to "Hi from NYC, Jackie ..." with πŸ‘πŸΏ 00:49:23 Rosey White: It will help a certain few... not all who need it. Or deserve 00:49:29 Jennifer Mohawk: Reacted to "we are also in New M..." with ❀️ 00:50:50 karen rhodes: Doesn't real page have lawsuit against them? 00:51:00 Sid Betancourt, NLIHC (she/they): The DC Attorney General also has a lawsuit against RealPage: https://oag.dc.gov/release/attorney-general-schwalb-sues-realpage-residential 00:51:23 Jennifer Mohawk: Replying to "It will help a certa..." OK I get this - if there's anyone who doesn't need AI it's the "certain few" who are overprivileged anyway, sure don't need any more 00:51:44 Jennifer Mohawk: Reacted to "The DC Attorney Gene..." with πŸ‘πŸΏ 00:51:44 Sharon Underwood: Reacted to "The DC Attorney Gene..." with πŸ‘ 00:52:01 Janice Hardy: Wow 00:52:07 Sid Betancourt, NLIHC (she/they): Here is also an older ProPublica article on RealPage: https://www.propublica.org/article/yieldstar-rent-increase-realpage-rent 00:52:16 Sharon Underwood: Reacted to "Here is also an olde..." with πŸ‘ 00:52:30 Jennifer Mohawk: Reacted to "It will help a certa..." with πŸ‘πŸΏ 00:52:35 Chandra Osterhaus: So, idk if I am clear on how the AI is primarily being used. Is it to help see who and how much discrimination or increase rent or... is to help design a more equitable system for applying. 00:52:36 L C: Do these AI programs violate privacy rules for health information, incl substance use treatment or behavioral health? Why do they scan personal social media? 00:52:41 Kashish Pillai: If you have Greystar LLC in your state, they are a client/user of RealPage & a large housing provider across the east coast 00:52:52 Fred Ashley: (Unpopular Opinion) I think AI is like any other technology and it's not good or bad but people can definitely use them to do good or bad things. I think the bigger challenge is that there are currently more bad people (landlords & for profit banks) using AI than there are good people (organizers & advocates) using it. 00:53:02 Sharon Underwood: How are they accessing a renters social media, isn't that private? 00:53:24 L C: Is there an algorithm that tenants or applicants can use to block these ai models? 00:53:34 Kashish Pillai: Reacted to "(Unpopular Opinion) ..." with πŸ‘πŸΎ 00:53:34 Sharon Underwood: Reacted to "Is there an algorith..." with πŸ‘ 00:53:38 Liz Marie Santiago-Otero: Reacted to "Is there an algorith..." with πŸ‘ 00:53:43 Jennifer Mohawk: Reacted to "(Unpopular Opinion) ..." with πŸ‘πŸΏ 00:53:48 Liz Marie Santiago-Otero: Reacted to "How are they accessi..." with 😀 00:53:59 Stan Lucas: Reacted to "(Unpopular Opinion) ..." with πŸ‘ 00:53:59 Jennifer Mohawk: Reacted to "Is there an algorith..." with πŸ‘πŸΏ 00:54:51 Sid Betancourt, NLIHC (she/they): Replying to "If you have Greystar..." I actually just applied to a Greystar property and can confirm this! 00:55:25 Chandra Osterhaus: Reacted to How are they accessi... with "😀" 00:56:00 Sharon Underwood: Replying to "If you have Greystar..." Yes, I have a relative that just moved out of a Greystar property and they are charging him outlandish fees. 00:56:47 Liz Marie Santiago-Otero: Reacted to "(Unpopular Opinion) ..." with πŸ‘πŸΎ 00:57:10 karen rhodes: hmmmm, I just thought of something---could it be possible that the use of AI is contributing to the ever-increasing rate of homelessness? 00:57:36 Liz Marie Santiago-Otero: This AI seems hurtful 00:57:51 Jennifer Mohawk: Texas landlords are required to give applicants a copy of their rental criteria before the application goes thru - this was done to avoid people being ripped off for application & other fees 00:58:29 Liz Marie Santiago-Otero: There are enough requirements to getting someone housed without this 00:58:30 Chandra Osterhaus: I think that online application practices in general are problematic. 00:58:34 Sid Betancourt, NLIHC (she/they): Hi Rosey! I see your hand. I will turn to you once Dr. Akinwumi wraps up. 00:58:50 Jacqueline Leduc: Those practices are also used for voucher holders and housing lotteries? 00:59:10 L C: Thank you 00:59:12 Jennifer Mohawk: We need to have limitation on how far back landlords can research criminal backgrounds. But it needs to be national; too many really good efforts on this were ended due to some higher authority shooting them down. Federal! 00:59:43 Janice Hardy: Recommendations Transparency in Application screening Advocate for stronger regulations Ask for fairer screening processes as a tenant Identify with agencies with similar interests and goals 00:59:49 Kashish Pillai: Reacted to "We need to have limi..." with ❗ 00:59:52 Venus Little: share your contact please 01:00:02 Jennifer Mohawk: Reacted to "Recommendations Tran..." with ❀️ 01:00:21 Liz Marie Santiago-Otero: Reacted to "Recommendations Tran..." with ❀️ 01:00:30 MIROSLAV A TSVYAKH: Dear Sid ! I already Email you. 01:00:35 Jennifer Mohawk: Replying to "hmmmm, I just though..." Yes, unfortunately 01:00:43 Liz Marie Santiago-Otero: Reacted to "Yes, unfortunately" with 😀 01:00:57 Liz Marie Santiago-Otero: Reacted to "hmmmm, I just though..." with 😀 01:00:59 Stan Lucas: Thank you! Have there been updates to legislation progress at the state or federal level? In Jan 24, the senate introduced "Preventing the Algorithmic Facilitation of Rental Housing Cartels Act." 01:01:01 Sid Betancourt, NLIHC (she/they): Reacted to "Recommendations Tran..." with ❀️ 01:01:10 Sid Betancourt, NLIHC (she/they): Replying to "Recommendations Tran..." Thank you, Janice! 01:02:09 Sid Betancourt, NLIHC (she/they): https://techequity.us/ 01:02:11 Liz Marie Santiago-Otero: Replying to "Recommendations Tran..." it seems more harmful 01:02:12 karen rhodes: It is a crime to be poor. You would not see the rich tolerating this kind of behavior being aimed at them. The rich would never tolerate algorithms, AI, etc. 01:02:20 Sid Betancourt, NLIHC (she/they): Reacted to "It is a crime to be ..." with ❀️ 01:02:25 Sharon Underwood: Reacted to "It is a crime to be ..." with ❀️ 01:02:25 Kashish Pillai: Reacted to "It is a crime to be ..." with ❀️ 01:02:27 Fred Ashley: AI is helping with Translating Tenant Resources (language justice) 01:02:35 Liz Marie Santiago-Otero: Reacted to "AI is helping with T..." with ❀️ 01:02:41 Janice Hardy: Replying to "Recommendations Tran…" @Sid Betancourt, NLIHC (she/they) You’re welcome 01:02:53 karen rhodes: We are on a very slippery slope and I am afraid we will never be able to return from this one. 01:03:29 Sharon Underwood: Reacted to "We are on a very sli..." with 😠 01:03:30 Jennifer Mohawk: Reacted to "It is a crime to be ..." with πŸ’” 01:03:55 Janice Hardy: Reacted to "hmmmm, I just though…" with πŸ‘ 01:05:09 Jennifer Mohawk: Replying to "We are on a very sli..." KR - we need to remain strong, encourage each other, remember none of us is in this alone - look at the good leaders & workers who remain and are still at it. The bad guys will not prevail in the end 01:05:11 Rosey White: We need to use AI to track these shady landlords / investors who get kick backs (tax cuts) yet don't fulfill their contractual obligations 01:05:12 Chandra Osterhaus: Do online application sites like rentcafe keep track of this stuff? 01:05:30 Jennifer Mohawk: Reacted to "We need to use AI to..." with ❀️ 01:05:34 Stan Lucas: Reacted to "We need to use AI to..." with πŸ‘ 01:05:43 Janice Hardy: Reacted to "Do online applicatio…" with πŸ‘ 01:05:43 Rosey White: AI is based on trends..TENANT TRENDS. Financial trends. NOT trends for the investors etc... 01:05:44 Jacqueline Leduc: Reacted to "It is a crime to be ..." with πŸ˜ͺ 01:05:54 Sid Betancourt, NLIHC (she/they): Reacted to "We need to use AI to..." with πŸ‘ 01:05:57 Jennifer Mohawk: Replying to "We need to use AI to..." I like that for them! β€οΈπŸ˜‚β€οΈ 01:06:04 karen rhodes: If you value your privacy at all, get off FB, and any and all other social media sites. 01:06:41 Janice Hardy: Reacted to "If you value your pr…" with πŸ‘ 01:07:19 Rosey White: Reacted to If you value your pr... with "πŸ‘" 01:07:20 Sid Betancourt, NLIHC (she/they): National Fair Housing Alliance website: https://nationalfairhousing.org/ 01:07:31 karen rhodes: I got off FB in 2018 and I don't miss it at all. 01:07:46 Sharon Underwood: Reacted to "If you value your pr..." with πŸ‘ 01:07:48 Rosey White: Reacted to I got off FB in 2018... with "❀️" 01:08:01 Rosey White: Substack is good for readers and writers... 01:08:19 Wednesday Szollosi: Gather data on property managers with highest eviction rates (based on complaints filed), state property management licensing agencies (complaints made regarding failure to address habitability issues). 01:08:30 Jennifer Mohawk: Reacted to "Gather data on prope..." with ❀️ 01:08:31 Kashish Pillai: Reacted to "Gather data on prope..." with ❀️ 01:08:33 Sid Betancourt, NLIHC (she/they): Replying to "Substack is good for..." Yes! I've recently gotten into substack and I enjoy it a lot. It's some peace and quiet from all the noise in other spaces. 01:08:41 karen rhodes: A friend of mine pointed this out to me--think about www--world wide WEB--as in getting snarled and not being able to break away at all. 01:08:46 Sid Betancourt, NLIHC (she/they): Reacted to "Gather data on prope..." with ❀️ 01:09:55 Chandra Osterhaus: Alot of these places make there application process impossible for people with vouchers or Hud funding to apply at all. Is that considered when looking at discriminating practices? 01:10:25 Rosey White: Good point but FOIA request are being ignored or blocked. Courts aren't releasing those statistics.... 01:10:40 L C: https://www.digitalintegrityalliance.org/ 01:10:44 Kristal Thompson: Great question Charles 01:10:56 Rosey White: Even on the local level. They focus on the tenants not the people who need further scrutiny 01:11:30 Venus Little: This was a good Topic Sid, we need more conversation and Q&A on this 01:11:43 Rosey White: HUD is going away. Ain't no more HUD. Housing choice vouchers. Section 8. It's ALL been underfunded by the billions 01:11:53 Jennifer Mohawk: Reacted to "This was a good Topi..." with πŸ‘πŸΏ 01:11:58 Sid Betancourt, NLIHC (she/they): Replying to "This was a good Topi..." Thank you! I'll make sure to include the remaining questions in our "Connection" article this week! 01:12:04 Rosey White: Reacted to This was a good Topi... with "❀️" 01:12:06 Sid Betancourt, NLIHC (she/they): Reacted to "This was a good Topi..." with ❀️ 01:12:24 Sid Betancourt, NLIHC (she/they): Reacted to "HUD is going away. A..." with 😭 01:12:26 L C: Yes. Garbage in Garbage out. Greed isn't good. 01:12:30 MIROSLAV A TSVYAKH: That is the New Info from White House. 01:12:44 Fred Ashley: Thank you for all this information. I have to hop off. Looking forward to the next meeting. Thanks again! 01:13:06 karen rhodes: RW--.....and that is why we have become a third-world country with all the consequential homelessness from coast to coast.....So much for the words on the Statue of Liberty that say, "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses...yearning to breathe free."? 01:13:42 Rosey White: Build community. We have enuff skills/talent/resources to help one another. This is our only hope... everything else is not sustainable 01:14:01 Sid Betancourt, NLIHC (she/they): Reacted to "Build community. We ..." with ❀️ 01:14:07 MIROSLAV A TSVYAKH: Reacted to "Build community. We ..." with ❀️ 01:14:37 karen rhodes: RW--Communities today are not very friendly. We might have been better able to build communities in years past. But today, especially post-covid, everyone is out for him/herself. 01:14:45 Sharon Underwood: This has been awesome, thank you so much 01:14:52 Rosey White: KR- agreed. But we (people) have nobody to blame but ourselves. Humans are the originator of pain and progress! If we build together we can create solutions!! ✨️ 01:15:16 Kashish Pillai: Reacted to "KR- agreed. But we (..." with ❀️ 01:15:25 Sharon Underwood: Reacted to "KR- agreed. But we (..." with ❀️ 01:15:36 Sharon Underwood: Replying to "KR- agreed. But we (..." Yes indeed 01:15:41 Sid Betancourt, NLIHC (she/they): Reacted to "KR- agreed. But we (..." with ❀️ 01:15:47 Rosey White: KR - we have to BUILD community. This means create it. Aint no community now..just competition and distractions... this is our problem 01:15:56 karen rhodes: RW--people where I am now are not at all very nice. ....Just suffice to say that I am glad I don't have as long left as I once did. 01:16:23 Rosey White: So what? You BE nice! You lead! 01:16:42 Rosey White: Watch who follows you... WE set the trends πŸ™Œ 01:16:45 karen rhodes: RW--I have tried and tried and tried. I am TIRED! 01:17:03 Chandra Osterhaus: No worries! 01:17:07 Rosey White: You can't get tired til you die. I'm tired too..keep pressing towards the mark!!! 01:17:10 Marie Marmash: This has been very interesting. Thank you 01:17:12 Rosey White: Til the end!!!!!! 01:17:13 Kenza Idrissi Janati, NLIHC: E-mail Sid at sbetancourt@nlihc.org 01:17:24 Janice Hardy: Thank you 01:17:24 Jacqueline Leduc: Thanks it was great! thanks a lot 01:17:27 Rosey White: Reacted to E-mail Sid at sbetan... with "❀️" 01:17:32 Michael Akinwumi: makinwumi@nationalfairhousing.org 01:17:37 Jennifer Mohawk: Another great meeting - thanks Everyone!! β€οΈπŸ’πŸ˜ŽβœŠπŸΏ 01:17:38 Kenza Idrissi Janati, NLIHC: Register for the next Tenant Talk Live: https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZcrcOmqqD0oH9aHFO8inZoX4ZuDrAEiFO_m#/registration 01:17:52 Kenza Idrissi Janati, NLIHC: Join the Tenant Talk FB page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/TenantTalk